Ovi Lays an Egg

Posted by David N. Welton Wed, 23 Jun 2010 14:45:00 GMT

In the local dialect here in Padova, Italy, "ovi" means "eggs".  For those who aren't native English speakers, "to lay an egg" means to fail at something or do it poorly.  The connection is very appropriate.


To see what it was about, and if it was worth pursuing, I decided to submit a couple of simple applications to Nokia's OVI store.  Nothing fancy, or that I'd spent much time developing, and they were actually little things I'd done for myself before the ovi.com store came out, but I had hoped to see about making a bit of money out of the time invested nonetheless.


So I went ahead and started adding them, with a quick glance the publisher guidelines.  Too quick, as it turns out.  A month after submitting my application, their "QA" process lets me know my application is not going to be accepted because it's not signed.  Uh... yeah?  Couldn't you have simply run a script on the file I uploaded to tell me the same damn thing?  It's not exactly as if you have to have a human look at the file with a hex editor to determine whether it's signed or not.  My phone can tell, of course - presumably Nokia ought to be able to figure it out programmatically and let me know?  Sure, I should have read their big, long document prior to starting, but come on, it would have saved everyone time if their software had simply informed me that my application, being unsigned, was not ok.

Now, when it comes to signing, Java ME is pretty much the worst in the business, although Apple is giving them a run for their money.  At least Apple does it to make the applications good for their users (for their definition of good).

  • Java ME:  Ovi suggests using http://javaverified.com/ - where it costs $200 to sign up, and then something like at least 75 euros to run an application through *their* whole process.  For each version.   The hell with that!
  • Android: you have to pay $25 to get access to the marketplace, but can self-sign applications.  For free.  Put that in your pipe and smoke it, Nokia & Larry.
  • BlackBerry: I was sure this one was going to be expensive and painful given that BB is mostly aimed at big companies that could certainly spare the money.   It's not: $20 gets you a certificate that you can sign everything you want with, and it's pretty quick and painless to get it.  This is how Nokia ought to be doing things in terms of signing applications.
  • Apple: $100 gets you the dev kit and then you can submit your apps to the somewhat bureaucratic and slow apple approval process.  Plus you have to own a mac to develop on, if you don't already have one.  But still, only $100 a year, and you can do as many apps as you want.

So there you have it, Java ME involves more fees than the other ones, and is probably as slow and bureaucratic to boot. I'm not going to find out, though, this pretty much concludes my experiment with ovi.com - there's no way I'm going to spend all that money on a little fun application that I'd only sell for a few euros.  Being a fan of open source and openness in general, my next phone will certainly be Android based.

I think someone at Nokia probably realizes things are broken: they appear to be working on a way to make it not cost anything to sign Symbian apps.  But I don't have a Symbian app, so that's pretty useless for me.

Oh, and while I'm bitching about their whole process, their publisher interface was down all of last weekend in order to "add a new set of metadata which will improve the Ovi Store user experience".  It took a whole weekend of downtime to add that?

Furthermore, I signed up for Ovi as soon as it came out - I was going to push Hecl to it (but didn't bother at the time) but now it appears they want 50 euros from you just to sign up.  Here's a hint: save your money.

2 comments |

Ok, first one on the block: leenooks.com

Posted by David N. Welton Thu, 10 Jun 2010 21:11:00 GMT

The problem with selling off these sites is that I am a bit attached to them emotionally.  Leenooks.com is a cool domain, I think - it's how Linus pronounces Linux, supposedly.  It's also one of the first sites I put together: the original version was done in Perl with CGI back in ... '97?  The current incarnation runs on DedaWiki a wiki I put together that is built with Ruby on Rails.


The idea behind the site was that, rather than keep track of all the hardware out there that works well with Linux, let's focus on the stuff you really want to avoid as that is a smaller set of things, and hopefully one that, one day, will be empty!

It seems to have been fairly popular over the years, and has helped pay for the server it runs on.  However, "popular" doesn't necessarily translate into "oodles of money", and especially now that I have a daughter who is a lot of fun to play with, I need to cut back on my "spare time" projects.  So this one is the first one up on the auction block.

I fervently hope that whoever acquires it can dedicate a bit more time and energy to making it do what it does, only better.

no comments |

A Minor Erlang Rant

Posted by David N. Welton Wed, 09 Jun 2010 20:34:00 GMT

In an earlier post, I compared node.js to Erlang: http://journal.dedasys.com/2010/04/29/erlang-vs-node-js - which admittedly has a whiff of apples and oranges about it.  Still, though, I think there's something to it.  Node.js is creating lots of buzz for itself these days.   Some of that will turn into actual production use, and at that point actual companies will have a vested interest in seeing the system improved.  Currently, it is not as 'good' as Erlang.  Erlang's VM has a built in scheduler, so you simply don't have to worry about manually creating bite-sized chunks of processing that feed into one another, it all "just works".  For instance, my current Erlang project involves reading from twitter's stream, and distributing that to IRC and the web.  It's pretty simple, works well, and is quite robust.

I haven't had the best of days though, and one little annoyance of the many I dealt with today really caught my eye.  I need to do an HTTP POST in Erlang, and:

  1. The documentation does not have examples.
  2. Here's an example of how to do a POST:
    http:request( post, { "http://scream-it.com/win/tests/posttest.cfm", [], "application/x-www-form-urlencoded", "x=2&y=3&msg=Hello%20World" }, [], [] ).

  3. Aside from being ugly and not very leggible, you'll note that he's passing the parameters as a string, and also has to manually include the "x-www-form-urlencoded" header.

  4. To create that string, you'd want to url encode it.  Actually, ideally, you'd just pass in a list of key/value pairs and let the library module handle it.

  5. However, there's nothing in the http module that does that.

  6. If you look through various bits of Erlang code on the web, you'll note many, many versions of url encoding and decoding, because the http module makes no mention of how one might go about doing so.

  7. It turns out, that the edoc_lib module does have a uri encode function!

  8. That isn't documented in its own man page.

  9. And certainly isn't linked to in the http page.

So, in 2010, doing an HTTP POST in Erlang is still a pain in the neck.  I'd be happy to put my money where my mouth is and submit a patch (at least one for the documentation), but you have to wonder why no one has fixed the problem so far - maybe they're not very accepting of patches?

no comments |

Some difficult decisions?

Posted by David N. Welton Wed, 09 Jun 2010 14:16:00 GMT

I am, by nature, a tinkerer.  I love to build things to see how they will work or because I have an idea that I think is fun.  I am not so much of a natural business guy.  I go build something "because it's there".  Or rather, it's there in my mind, and I want to make it.

I earn money, however, via consulting work.  There are problems with this line of business though, namely that it doesn't scale very well unless, besides being good at a skill, you've also got the skills to build up a consulting business, which is very much about adding and managing people, something I'm not all that passionate about and would rather avoid.  So what happens is that you go through slumps with less than full capacity, and then things pick up again, and before you know it, you hit your upper limit and can't take on any new work, putting a ceiling over your potential earnings.  Sure, you can raise prices a bit, but that'll only get you so far.  For a while now, I've been considering this problem, and I think some sort of product would be an ideal way out.  Stories like Balsamiq's are inspirational, and along the lines of what I think might be nice.  Don't get me wrong, I like my clients and like to help people solve problems a lot, but it's a stressful job in that you're never very far from having no income.

I'm not much of an entrepreneur, though, in the sense of someone with a nose for making money.  I tend to think about building something cool first, and not really worrying about making money with it.  Predictably, some of the sites I have created are popular, but don't make any money.  Sure, they have some ads, but that doesn't really make much unless you get really huge page views or have some sort of content that attracts users who will click on very lucrative advertisements.  I've started to think that perhaps I should constrain myself in new initiatives to creating things that have a direct source of revenue: you want to use it, you pay.  In my daydream world, I'd probably just hack on open source all day long, but there's no money in that for someone like me who is not the author of some huge, famous piece of software, nor a particularly great hacker in any case (I've met some, like Andrew Tridgell, and it's a really humbling experience).

So that brings up the question of what to do with the aforementioned sites. One option would be to sell them off via a site like flippa.com, another would be simply to just let them sit there and stew, but they do take up some resources on my server, and require some maintainance now and then, and they're a bit of a distraction too (I start wondering about things to add or how to fiddle with them).  Maybe there's a way to make money from some of them, but I'm too blind to see it.

The ones I'm thinking about, are, in no particular order:

  • http://langpop.com - this one gets decent traffic, but programmers are about the best people in the world at ignoring advertisements.
  • http://leenooks.com - the Linux Incompatibility List attempts to point out hardware that people should avoid if they intend to run Linux on their computers.  Happily, there is less need for this site than when I conceived of it some 10+ years ago, but I think it's still a helpful resource.
  • http://linuxsi.com - (in Italian) this one is a place that highlights stores and consultants who are "Linux friendly".  Want to buy a computer with Linux?  There's probably a store near you.  I have had fun with this site, but, once again, no revenue.
  • http://squeezedbooks.com - "open source" business book summaries and discussion.  There are plenty of competitors in this space who make their money by churning out summaries and charging for access for them.  I had hoped to build a community interested in reviewing and discussing books out in the open.  There is a lot of fluff in business books, mostly because you can't sell a 10 page book that describes your idea, but need to pad it out with lots of examples and repitition and so on to make an actual book out of it, but that doesn't mean the idea at the heart of the book in question isn't an interesting or new one.

4 comments |